I've got teenagers lower than the age of 3. whilst I’d visit paintings, it wasn’t very good,” he remembers. “So at some point me and my blood brother Ray Hirt went out and bought inebriated at lunch and drank from midday till 5 within the afternoon. It used to be a snowy day. I did a donut within the box subsequent to MOS expertise within the snow. regrettably there has been a ditch there and that i bought caught. ” Hirt drove Mensch domestic, and at the approach, he paid a mechanic to tow his van out to prevent having to provide an embarrassing clarification to his employers. the following morning, Mensch got here into paintings hung over. “I’m status there at the moment ground close to the engineering workplaces taking a look at this eco-friendly van outdoors nonetheless caught in a ditch. ” In that second, he decided. “I’m considering, ‘I have to be long gone. ’ I talked to the man who was once the CEO on the time and acknowledged it’s time to maneuver on. ” Mensch left in March 1977 to paintings at ICE (Integrated Circuit Engineering) in Phoenix, Arizona. presently after his departure, a person used a felt-tipped marker to black out Mensch’s photograph from the gang photograph at the wall. aside from Peddle, not anyone from the unique 6502 undertaking remained. Commodore administration didn't know how very important the 6502 engineers have been to the continuing luck of MOS know-how. regrettably, Commodore could repeat this development many extra instances. Commodore engineer Dave Haynie later dubbed this development the “Commodore Curse. ” * * * On the cusp of good fortune, the Commodore Curse was once approximately to strike back. Andre Sousan had noticed MOS know-how and the 6502 processor, instigated Commodore’s first computer, enticed Chuck Peddle to stick with Commodore and named the puppy computing device. It used to be time for the curse to take influence. in response to Peddle, it used to be inevitable Sousan and Tramiel might half methods. “Andre was once a Jack loyalist yet Jack had a manner of consuming up humans like Andre simply because Andre was once particularly instantly. loads of men round Jack had their shifty aspect. ” According to hawk, Sousan performed reasonable. “He had an outstanding brain and regularly used his brain good, regardless of his organization with Tramiel. I’m convinced a couple of times, simply because he used to be linked to Tramiel, he acquired at the abnormal part of a deal simply because Tramiel did that. ” Trouble all started in early 1977 over a possible insignificant confrontation over product and administration philosophy. “Andre and Jack received into this struggle over whatever that used to be happening within the calculator company, and Andre was once protecting his place one day,” says Peddle. “Basically Jack acknowledged, ‘Get out. ’” It used to be the top of the road for Sousan at Commodore. “This man have been completely unswerving and equipped his lifestyles round him. ” Now he might turn out assisting Commodore’s rival be successful. Peddle explains, “Andre essentially walked around the road [to Apple] and stated, ‘I are looking to be within the pc company, yet I’m not likely to get to do it with Commodore. ’” In April 1977, Sousan approached Apple, the corporate he had was hoping Commodore may collect, and provided to establish eu operations.